Canon EOS 5DsR/5Ds: My Experience

These days I use the Canon EOS 5DsR for much of my photography — particularly my landscape, nature, wildlife, and long-exposure night photography. Since people often ask me about the camera, I have decided to offer this write-up. I’ll try to cover some things about the camera that work well for me, acknowledge one or two very small issues, and consider the kinds of photographers for whom it (or its twin, the Canon EOS 5Ds)  might be a great choice. (This isn’t the first time I’ve written about aspects of this camera’s performance, and I have included a list of some of my other posts near the end of this article.)

Canon EOS 5Ds DSLR
Canon EOS 5Ds DSLR

The 5Ds and 5DsR are both 51 megapixel (MP) full frame DSLR bodies from Canon. They currently provide the highest sensor resolution available from a full frame digital camera and, as such, are targeted to photographers who need particularly high image resolution and who will photograph and post-process in ways that provide this. The 5DsR cancels the effect of the anti-aliasing filter found in the 5Ds — more on that subject below.

It is probably fair to say that the main attraction of these cameras is that high-resolution sensor, a fact that might lead some photographers to ask whether or not they will be able to take advantage of the high-resolution. Compared to earlier 5D-series cameras, the 5Ds/5DsR provide some other improvements, too. The autofocus (AF) system has been updated, noise handling is very good, and the  camera produces high dynamic range files that can be pushed and pulled quite a bit in post. Some updates have been made to the hardware and software interface of the camera, too.

Two Sandhill Cranes in Flight
A pair of lesser sandhill cranes in flight above California’s San Joaquin Valley

Sensor Resolution

There is no question that these cameras can produce very high-resolution images. Photographers who work carefully and who make very large prints will be pleased. I have made test prints equivalent to 30″ x 45″ prints that look very good and it is possible to go even larger. However, before you jump at the highest resolution full frame camera purely on the basis of higher resolution, you should ask yourself a few serious questions.

  • How large do you print? If you don’t print larger than perhaps 18″ x 27″ on a regular basis, the odds are that you will not see any significant difference.
  • How careful are you when photographing? When taking advantage of this camera’s resolution in order to make very large prints, other factors affecting image quality become more critical. For example, you probably not only want to shoot from a tripod, but you want to shoot from a very good tripod and with great care. Careful decisions about focus and aperture become more critical. You may sometimes end up thinking a bit differently about shutter speed.
  • Do the potential advantages of higher sensor resolution outweigh some of the inevitable downsides in your photography? For example, the maximum burst rate of the camera is lower than that of some less expensive bodies. File sizes are very large, and you’ll more quickly fill up memory cards and hard drives.

If you photograph carefully and regularly make large prints (or need to crop a lot!), the 5Ds/5DsR bodies can provide some useful advantages. Since this is how I work, the difference is significant. If you tend to shoot handheld and/or rarely or never make extremely large prints, you may be better off with a lower resolution camera.

Image Quality

Image quality is the sum of many things. Leaving aside the esthetic component and just thinking about technical issues, factors such as ISO range, dynamic range, noise, color quality, and resolution all play a part. The resolution issue is clearly handled beautifully by these bodies.

A 100% magnification crop from the previous photograph:

(5DsR with 100-400 v.2 with the Canon 1.4x TC, shooting handheld at ISO 800.)

The 5Ds/5DsR have a normal ISO range from 100-6400, and it can be extended to 50-12800. If you keep up with recent camera developments you know that there are cameras from Canon and others that can work at higher ISOs, so if you need to rely on extremely high ISO values in your photography, the 5Ds/5DsR will not likely be your first choice. That said, the camera performs well throughout its ISO range. I frequently shoot it at 1600-3200 when photographing wildlife in low light with long lenses. I have to do some noise reduction in post, but I end up with excellent files.

The dynamic range question is the source of a lot of discussion on photography forums and elsewhere. Sensors produced by Sony currently have the largest available dynamic ranges, and that may affect your choice if having the absolutely largest range is critical to you. That said, the 5Ds/5DsR have excellent dynamic range and the real world photography difference between it and the Sony offerings is more a matter of degree than of night and day. I regularly push shadows extensively in post-processing and the 5DsR files hold up very well. (See my articles on this at the end of this post.)

Tuolumne River, Evening
Evening clouds dissipate above the Tuolumne River, Yosemite National Park

When it comes to image noise, there are several factors to consider: how much noise there is, how ISO affects the amount of noise, how “clean” the noise is, whether it can be diminished in post, and its visibility in final images. That’s a lot of ground to cover — so I’ll start by simply saying that I find that noise performance is generally very good in these cameras. A bit more information follows, though it will be anecdotal rather than a sequence of test results — I’m describing my real world experience with files from the camera, and you can find objective test results elsewhere if you are interested.

  • There is no appreciable noise at ISO 100 or ISO 200, where you’ll likely do a lot of your nature and landscape photography. I can see a tiny bit more noise at 400, but it only requires me to do truly minimal noise reduction. As expected, the visibility of noise continues to increase as ISO is raised. File quality is very good at 800, and a bit of noise reduction takes care of it. I have made landscape photographs at ISO 800 in a few cases. I often shoot at 1600 or 3200 when photographing birds in low light. Here I can certainly seen noise at 100% magnification on the screen, but I can manage it with normal noise reduction processes in post. I don’t have enough experience with higher ISOs to say much about them. In sum, noise isn’t an issue for me with the 5DsR.
  • The “quality” of the noise is very good. Basically this means that it is quite random, with no visible banding or similar artifacts. This means that simple noise reduction processes are effective, and it means that leaving noise in the image (if any is visible) will simply result in a slight grainy character that might remind you of film a bit. On this subject, one additional advantage of the  high sensor resolution is that noise “grain” is extremely small. Even if there is noise visible at 100% magnification, it is so small that you won’t see it even in a rather large print.

I frequently read folks posting about the “color quality” of various brands and models of digital camera. In my view, this is sometimes made out to be a bigger issue than it really is. First, the differences are usually far smaller than the writers suggest. Second, by tailoring your post-processing workflow to the files you work with you can get excellent color from any competent camera. So, I have no issues at all with the colors from the camera.

What about anti-aliasing?

The only difference between the 5Ds and the 5DsR is that anti-aliasing filtering is cancelled in the 5DsR. For many years anti-aliasing (or “AA”) filters have been added to digital cameras. The objective is to eliminate spurious image artifacts that can be created when photographing very highly detailed subjects. (The technical description is that image frequencies that exceed the half sampling value of the sensor may produce these spurious alias artifacts.) Anti-aliasing filters (to keep it simple) slightly blur the image to deal with the potential of aliasing artifacts.

Recently more manufacturers have done away with anti-aliasing. They have either cancelled it (as in the case of the 5DsR and the original Nikon D800e) or else they eliminate it entirely. (My Fujifilm x-series camera has no anti-aliasing filter.) The positive effect of this can be somewhat higher image resolution, but at the potential of increased risk of aliasing artifacts such as moire.

D4 Industrial Brownhoist
A massive ship yard hoist at night, Mare Island Navale Ship Yard

In my experience, eliminating anti-aliasing has had no negative effects. I have yet to encounter an image with a problem caused by the lack of the anti-aliasing filter. I’m not saying that it could not happen, but I am saying that it is apparently a very rare thing. (It may be more likely if you are photographing certain kinds of fine, repeating patterns.)

On the other hand, I’m not convinced that images from the AA-filter-free 5DsR are actually substantially sharper than those from the 5Ds. Technically, the 5DsR files must start out a bit sharper, but I doubt if that translates in a meaningful way to final photographs. First, using different sharpening settings in post-processing will make any difference in the original files even smaller. Second, quite frankly, any 51MP image file is going to be very sharp, as long as it contains an in-focus image.

I got the 5DsR since I had previous experience with cameras not using anti-aliasing filters. Eventually, I expect that Canon will simply eliminate the 5Ds with its anti-alias filtering. However, in the meantime you might get a great deal on a 5Ds!

Autofocus System

The AF system of the 5DsR has been improved and is quite good. Among other subjects I photograph birds, often in flight. Using the Canon 100-400mm v.2 lens I can get extremely sharp images of these subjects with this camera.

Geese Rising
A flock of geese takes to the air above San Joaquin Valley wetlands

I won’t go into all the details, but the camera supplies a highly customizable set of AF system settings that allow the camera to be configured for a range of AF challenges.

Ergonomics

For some folks, the “feel” of the camera is very important. This is a rather personal and subjective thing, so I can’t tell you if you will like the way the 5Ds/5DsR bodies feel. I can say that they are well designed and that if you like the other 5D-series bodies you will find the 5Ds/5DsR to be very familiar.

This was brought home to me right away when I started using the new camera. I have used a 5DII for about a half-dozen years, and operation of that camera had become very intuitive for me. I don’t like learning a new interface, and I was concerned that there would be an adjustment period when I upgraded. However, with only a few small exceptions, the 5DsR felt very familiar to me, and I was able to start using it effectively almost immediately. In fact, I never did read a manual, simply looking up a few things that momentarily puzzled me.

Is it perfect?

No camera is perfect, and every camera choice involves weighing a list of pluses and minuses in order to decide what best fits each photographer’s needs and preferences. I find that the 5DsR reflects its lineage as the fourth camera in the 5D-series bodies — in other words, it is a rather refined tool without major problems. I do have a few very minor niggles:

  1. When shooting in live view mode the battery life is quite reduced, and I may have to replace the battery after only a couple of hundred photographs. (In regular mode, using the viewfinder, I’ve shot close to 2000 images on a single battery.) The live view battery life is, not surprisingly, rather similar to the battery life on mirrorless cameras with electronic viewfinders.
  2. When working from the tripod, I sometimes find the position of the depth of field (DOF) preview button to be a bit awkward, especially when I’m using live view and trying to pan around the image to check focus with the DOF preview button pressed. Most photographers will never run into this, but some will have to relearn things a bit, as I did.

Who  is this camera for?

Lots of people are interested in this camera, and many wonder if it is the right camera for them. I think it is ideal for certain kinds of photographers:

  • Photographers who will work carefully to produce images of high technical quality that can be printed very large are well served by this camera. The primary point of this camera is its high sensor resolution, and the point of that is mostly to be able to produce large prints that maintain a suitable level of detail. Given that cameras will much lower sensor resolution can produce beautiful prints at very a large sizes, there is probably a somewhat limited number of photographers who will benefit from the very high resolution. Do you often print at 20″ x 30″ and above? Do you shoot very carefully and use a sophisticated post-processing workflow? You may see a difference based on the higher resolution.
  • Photographers who want to get high sensor resolution and shoot diverse subjects may also see advantages. In my case, I sometimes move instantaneously between landscape and wildlife photography, and the ability to do this in a single camera is very useful. The camera’s excellent AF system and the speed/focusing/tracking advantages of DSLRs are compelling for me. (Photographers who rely on very high frame rates for the wildlife and similar photography may be less pleased with the 5Ds/5DsR.)
  • Photographers who apply sophisticated post processing workflow will find that the files from the 5Ds/5DsR are very pliable — highlights can be recovered and shadows pushed and more.
Basalt Columns, Lichen, Autumn Plants
Basalt Columns, Lichen, Autumn Plants

Who is this camera not for?

The camera will provide virtually no advantage for photographers who mostly share files electronically via email, social media, or on the web. These forms of image display are far too small for there to be any visible advantage from the high resolution sensor. Photographers who depend on extremely high ISO values may also not be satisfied with the limit of ISO 6400 (and ISO 12800 in extended mode) from this camera.  Those who need very fast burst rates may want cameras that can operate faster than 5fps. Anyone concerned about the practicality of handling large image files may hesitate, too.

In the end…

That’s pretty much it. I’m very happy with the camera, I’m highly satisfied with my purchase, and I expect to use this body for a long time.

NOTES:

I plan to update and edit articles like this one over time. In fact, you can post comments and questions below and I’ll try to respond, either in my own comments or by editing the article.

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8 thoughts on “Canon EOS 5DsR/5Ds: My Experience”

  1. Hi Steve,

    Thanks for stopping by!

    I have never had a reason to do a four-minute daylight exposure. Using a 9-stop ND filter I had done exposures of at least 30 seconds and perhaps up to a minute with no issues.

    I have done a lot of tripod-based long-exposure night photography with the camera, including exposures that are much longer than four minutes. I’d have to go look to see just how long, but I’m sure I’ve done multiple exposures in the 15-20 minute range.

    I’ve never seen any issues with banding at all with well-exposed images from the camera, regardless of exposure length. I haven’t seen any effect on noise from exposure length either.

    The 5DsR is not in the same league with some cameras with much lower MP counts when it comes to high ISOs, and I imagine you already know that its high ISO settings are limited compared to more recent cameras. I don’t usually do the kinds of night exposures that I mentioned above at higher than 400 (and possibly 800 on occasion) ISO, and at those values noise isn’t an issue. I do shoot at 3200 regularly in daylight (and twilight) conditions when doing bird photography. There’s noise, but it cleans up in post.

    The only way I know of to produce what I’d regard as excessive noise on the 5DsR is to a) shoot at a high ISO, b) underexpose, and c) try to push the exposure way back up in post. The files are actually quite malleable and I posh dark areas of frames quite a bit at time (let me know if you want links to some examples) but if you really go to the limits — multiple sort pushes of badly underexposed high ISO files — you can run out of maneuvering room.

    Hope that helps.

    Dan

  2. Hello Dan,
    Joining the discussion years late, but wondering if you have done in long exposure tests with the 5dsr; in particular, where the shutter is open for longer than 4 minutes in daylight. Have you noticed increased noise? Have you noticed color banding and issues related to the heat generated in the sensor?
    Thanks for the review and the info.
    Smile,
    Steve

  3. Hi Dan, thanks for sharing your assessment of this fine camera.
    I have been given to understand there is a correlation between pixel pitch and diffraction/circle of confusion. For example, In my own experience shooting at f16 on the original 12MP 5D could yield respectable enlargements but perhaps less so with the 21MP 5Dmkii. Have you found that you are using wider apertures when shooting with the 5Ds.

    1. Len, you bring up a common misconception about higher resolution sensors. From reading some people, you might get the (incorrect) idea that photographing with a higher MP camera at apertures like f/11 or f/16 will yield a less sharp photograph than shooting at the same aperture on a lower resolution sensor.

      This is incorrect.

      Diffraction blur is an optical phenomenon and it is unrelated to sensor photo site density. Imagine conducting the following experiment:

      Use some lens — let’s make it an excellent 50mm prime — on two full frame cameras, one with a 21MP sensor and the other with a 51MP sensor. Put the first camera on a tripod and mount the 50mm lens. Set it to some aperture — let’s use f/16 — and very carefully focus the lens on your subject. Use a remote release to trigger the exposure.

      Now, repeat the exact same process using the 51MP camera — the exact same lens, the f/16 aperture, the same subject, the same care with focus and camera stability. Make an exposure that should have the same subject and composition.

      Take both images through the same post-processing workflow and make a very large print from each of them — let’s make it a 24″ x 36″ print. Now carefully compare the two prints. You will find that:

      • There is precisely the same amount of diffraction in both photographs, and
      • The “grain size” of any noise in the images is smaller in the higher resolution example, and
      • Gradients may be slightly smoother in the higher resolution example.

      Now, let’s assume that you are using a very good lens that can produce very high resolution. Let’s repeat the process, this time selecting whatever the so-called diffraction-limited aperture is for both cameras — that point at which diffraction blur is (according to a slightly messy calculation) larger than the pixel pitch. You’ll use a slightly larger aperture on the higher MP camera.

      The result? The higher MP exposure will be a bit sharper than the lower MP camera, since it can take advantage of the additional resolution of the sensor.

      The bottom line: The higher MP sensor camera is never worse than the lower MP system, and it virtually all cases it is at least somewhat better.

      Take care,

      Dan

      1. Hi Dan, I very much appreciate you taking the time to respond and offer opinions based on your experience. I have read various articles on the matter, the one that comes immediately to mind written by Stanley Prevost back in 2009.
        For quite a few years I relied on Canons AF system and was sometimes disappointed with the results. About 2 years ago I started to use “Live View ” as you have advocated. This coupled with using lager apertures to offset COC/diffraction have yielded much better results.
        Once again my thanks for your comments. I very much enjoy your images and observations. Keep up the good work.
        Len.

        1. Thanks, Len. To be clear, what I’m writing about diffraction blur and its relationship to high photo site density sensors isn’t an opinion. It is actually a description of how it works.

          I’ve been very surprised at the persistence of the notion that high MP sensors might be more sensitive to diffraction blur. A related misconception is that they are more sensitive to motion blur — I’ve actually seen people suggest that one should use higher shutter speeds with them!

          In fact, there will be exactly the same amount of motion blur (subject or camera) at a given shutter speed regardless of photo site density, and exactly the same amount of diffraction blur.

          What is true is that when you make larger prints, if that is what you do with your higher MP camera, all of the factors that affect sharpness can become more critical: those mentioned above, camera stability, aperture choice, careful focusing, good lenses, etc.

          Dan

          1. Hi Dan, thanks again for the clarification on the subject of diffraction blur.
            At this time I am not printing much larger than 12 x 18, but that being said, I have seen improvements using Live View and critical manual focus.
            On the subject of printing I note your preference for Ilford GFS baryta paper. This is also a paper I have used for some years and was disappointed when it became unavailable. I have of late been using Canson Infinity Baryta as an alternative.

            Len R.

          2. Len:

            The good news is that Ilford papers, including the Gold Fibre Silk paper, are now available again. On the other hand, I’m interested in trying some of the alternatives and the Canson paper is on my list.

            Dan

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